Mage: hybrid idea remains unverified
Corgideus captions: recorded Arcane Blast/Frostfire Bolt combination as an open build idea. No rank values imported.
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CLASSIC FOREVER · TALENT WORKSHOP
Nine classes. 27 talent trees. Left-click to add a point, right-click to remove it.
Your order from level 10, one point per level up to 51. After removing points, dependent steps move later if needed. This is your plan, not a recommended build.
Choose your first talent in the tree to start your leveling path.
Your plan uses the current Forever dataset and selected Talented Legacy rank. Older links are matched by talent name and loaded only if still valid under current rules; otherwise they are rejected as outdated.
464 talents from Wowhead’s public Forever calculator, compared with wowtbc.gg and other Forever calculators. Differences remain visible on each talent. This records the source snapshot, not verification of every value in the release client.
Without a bonus: one point per level from 10, at most 51. Talented Legacy ranks 1–5 shift the starting level to 9–5; the cap remains 51. Other Legacy and profession trees are not included. Talent names and effects retain their English source text. Old build links load only when talents map unambiguously and the resulting build remains valid.
| Class | Talents | Structural differences |
|---|---|---|
| Warrior | 52 | 0 |
| Paladin | 50 | 0 |
| Hunter | 50 | 0 |
| Rogue | 53 | 0 |
| Priest | 52 | 0 |
| Shaman | 50 | 0 |
| Mage | 53 | 0 |
| Warlock | 52 | 0 |
| Druid | 52 | 0 |
32 talents contain 44 unresolved rank texts. Point allocation remains available; ambiguous effect values are not presented as confirmed.
Wowhead ↗ · wowtbc.gg ↗ · WoW Forever Talents ↗ · Talents Forever ↗
Select a talent to see its rank text and prerequisites.
CLASS ARCHIVE · Rogue
Classification relative to Classic according to the community source, not since our latest update. “Changed” may include position or rank count. This is not a confirmed Blizzard patch log.
9 talents in this selection. Browsing does not change your build.
Rank 1 according to the source: Wowhead and wowtbc.gg differ for this rank or contain incomplete scaling values. No definitive numeric value is shown pending clarification.
Tier 5 · requires 20 points in lower tiers
Sources differ in rank values or contain incomplete scaling formulas.
Open source tree ↗Third-party notes, not footage fully verified by us. Filenames are not accessible evidence.
Rank 1 according to the source: Wowhead and wowtbc.gg differ for this rank or contain incomplete scaling values. No definitive numeric value is shown pending clarification.
Tier 7 · requires 30 points in lower tiers
Sources differ in rank values or contain incomplete scaling formulas.
Open source tree ↗Third-party notes, not footage fully verified by us. Filenames are not accessible evidence.
Rank 1 according to the source: Increases the critical strike chance of your Backstab by 10% and your Mutilate by 5%, and gives Backstab a 15% chance to add an additional Combo Point.
Tier 2 · requires 5 points in lower tiers
Open source tree ↗Third-party notes, not footage fully verified by us. Filenames are not accessible evidence.
Rank 1 according to the source: Reduces the Energy cost of your Eviscerate ability by 10.
Tier 4 · requires 15 points in lower tiers
Open source tree ↗Third-party notes, not footage fully verified by us. Filenames are not accessible evidence.
Rank 1 according to the source: Reduces the Energy cost of your Sap and Blind abilities by 25%.
Tier 2 · requires 5 points in lower tiers
Open source tree ↗Third-party notes, not footage fully verified by us. Filenames are not accessible evidence.
Rank 1 according to the source: Increases the radius of your Distract ability by 3 yds, and further reduces the Stealth detection of distracted enemies as though they were an additional 1 levels lower.
Tier 3 · requires 10 points in lower tiers
Open source tree ↗Third-party notes, not footage fully verified by us. Filenames are not accessible evidence.
Rank 1 according to the source: Your Sinister Strike, Ghostly Strike, and Hemorrhage abilities cause 2% more damage against targets below 35% health.
Tier 6 · requires 25 points in lower tiers
Open source tree ↗Third-party notes, not footage fully verified by us. Filenames are not accessible evidence.
Rank 1 according to the source: Your Backstab has a 3% chance to cause your next Ambush within 10 sec to not require Stealth.
Tier 6 · requires 25 points in lower tiers
Open source tree ↗Third-party notes, not footage fully verified by us. Filenames are not accessible evidence.
Rank 1 according to the source: When your Rupture ability deals periodic damage, the Energy cost of your next Hemorrhage or Backstab ability within 10 sec is reduced by 3, stacking up to 5 times.
Tier 7 · requires 30 points in lower tiers
Open source tree ↗Third-party notes, not footage fully verified by us. Filenames are not accessible evidence.
FROM TALENTS TO CLASS KNOWLEDGE
Known class changes, abilities and their sources. Preview observations are not final game values.
Esfand identifies Mutilate while inspecting the Rogue talent tree.
Details & sources ↗OfficialRoguePoisons work alongside temporary weapon enchants. Sap preserves Stealth, and one-handed axes expand weapon choices.
Details & sources ↗PreviewBlind: poison effect in demo commentarySodapoppin calls Blind a poison effect following a brief duel attempt.
Details & sources ↗THE EVIDENCE CHRONICLE
· Chronicle updated
Chronicle updated: recent individual reviews appear alongside older findings. This date does not mean every source was rechecked. Current video review scope and class coverage appear below; actual Forever gameplay tests remain pending.
Corgideus captions: recorded Arcane Blast/Frostfire Bolt combination as an open build idea. No rank values imported.
Selected captions ↗Recorded Esfand’s Thunder Clap and Shield Wall commentary. Recklessness not individually confirmed; an edited stream is not independent corroboration.
Selected captions ↗MMARKERS: selected captions reviewed. Questions on other players’ bleeds, healing and mana efficiency documented as open.
Selected caption review · 15 September 2026 ↗Recorded Sodapoppin’s Blind commentary separately from subsequent cleansing assumptions. Not our own aura test.
Selected caption review · 15 September 2026 ↗Recorded Night Elf Devouring Plague commentary; generalization to every race is unconfirmed.
Selected caption review · 15 September 2026 ↗Selected caption passages from Esfand’s September 14 video were reviewed. Wishes remain separate from demo claims. Improved Ghost Wolf was additionally checked visually at 6:17: first point, displayed 0/2. This verifies neither the second rank nor all later tooltips.
Esfand · 6:17 · first-rank visual check ↗Group discussion from 47:43 describes Frost damage and control positively. This is a subjective demo impression; automatic captions do not reliably identify the speaker. The windows around 45:08 and 48:03 provide no spoken confirmation of Ghost Wolf or Totemic Projection. This neither confirms nor rules out visible tooltips.
Guzu · First Look · 13 September · automatic captions ↗The September 15 search found reports of corrected Shaman and Warrior details in community talent calculators. These leads are not video evidence verified by us. Existing talent values therefore remain unchanged. The Blizzard Deep Dive was rechecked as a primary source.
Community leads · 15 September 2026 ↗New topic overview for Legacy, rulesets, Hardcore, Paladin, camping and transmog. Will of the Forsaken now reflects Blizzard’s explicit statement that it grants no subsequent immunity.
Blizzard · Forever Deep Dive ↗The comparison found updates to 76 talents, including rank-text differences in 22. These include withdrawn values, wording corrections and new claims, not 76 balance changes. Affected rank texts are hidden pending review. Talent points, prerequisites and saved builds are unchanged.
WoW Forever Talents · comparison 22:39 UTC ↗Additional review on 13 September: 31 racial descriptions read in Savix’s character-selection footage; three others marked as transcript evidence. Includes Stoneform, weapon bonuses, Eureka, Cannibalize and Rapid Regeneration. Original images and DE/EN summaries are in the race guide. Demo text is not final mechanic verification.
Forever Codex · DE / EN · racial evidence ↗Compared with our import, Genesis, Feral Swiftness, King of the Jungle, Rend and Tear and Wild Growth received icon mappings and source notes. No talents were added or removed; rank texts, rank counts and prerequisites were unchanged. The notes reference WotLK icons, not a verified Forever client. Now applied as presentation-only icon mappings; our imported snapshot and all effect values remain unchanged.
WoW Forever Talents · Druid ↗Crixxious reports six hours with the convention demo, capped at level 38. Improved Corruption reportedly reduces cast time and increases damage together. This qualitatively matches the community dataset, but does not confirm our percentages or every rank; specific tooltip footage is still needed.
Crixxious · hands-on report · 13 Sep 2026 ↗Blizzard lists Warriors, Hunters, Rogues and Druids for both factions, with Shamans for the Horde and Mages for the Alliance. New druid forms and racials are announced, but the recap does not provide a complete table of effects and values. This is a recheck, not a new announcement.
Blizzard · What’s Next recap · 12 Sep 2026 ↗The Blue Tracker helps discover Blizzard posts. Trace claims back to the original.
Discover articles and corrections; a recap is not additional independent evidence.
Use transcripts to locate topics and frames to verify values: record timestamp, visible rank and demo version.
Cross-check positions, ranks and prerequisites while accounting for shared source footage.
Current news feed reviewed in the browser; distinguish hands-on reports from official evidence.
Comments surface questions, not representative statistics. Screenshots only establish the visible rank and demo version. Datamining requires a publicly available client and build number; we have not independently verified a full Forever client. Automated source checks were stopped. This comparison was performed manually. The last documented successful review above remains authoritative.
Data imported: 2026-10-30 · Source talent tree ↗ · Game art and game text: Blizzard Entertainment. Original planner UI; not affiliated with Blizzard. Use “Share build” to save your build as a link. Without a saved link, edits are lost on reload.
BLIZZCON · CLASSES & TALENTS
Gameplay, panel announcements and first impressions from BlizzCon: explore the new talents and class abilities.
Vanguard · Penance · Riptide · Eclipse
Abilities and talent changes from the BlizzCon demo, with direct sources for the featured effects.
Featured abilities reflect the demo version. Values and talent trees may change before release.
Counts refer to lexicon entries with explicitly recorded evidence types, not fully verified talents. An entry may contain multiple evidence types. Our own Forever-client gameplay tests remain pending for every class.
7 entries · 1 with visual tooltip evidence · 2 with transcript evidence · 0 classified as community commentary
Latest individual review: 2026-10-30. Not complete class acceptance.
5 entries · 0 with visual tooltip evidence · 2 with transcript evidence · 1 classified as community commentary
Latest individual review: 2026-10-30. Not complete class acceptance.
7 entries · 1 with visual tooltip evidence · 5 with transcript evidence · 0 classified as community commentary
Latest individual review: 2026-10-30. Not complete class acceptance.
3 entries · 0 with visual tooltip evidence · 2 with transcript evidence · 0 classified as community commentary
Latest individual review: 2026-10-30. Not complete class acceptance.
5 entries · 1 with visual tooltip evidence · 4 with transcript evidence · 0 classified as community commentary
Latest individual review: 2026-10-30. Not complete class acceptance.
6 entries · 2 with visual tooltip evidence · 5 with transcript evidence · 0 classified as community commentary
Latest individual review: 2026-10-30. Not complete class acceptance.
5 entries · 0 with visual tooltip evidence · 4 with transcript evidence · 1 classified as community commentary
Latest individual review: 2026-10-30. Not complete class acceptance.
4 entries · 0 with visual tooltip evidence · 4 with transcript evidence · 1 classified as community commentary
Latest individual review: 2026-10-30. Not complete class acceptance.
7 entries · 1 with visual tooltip evidence · 5 with transcript evidence · 1 classified as community commentary
Latest individual review: 2026-10-30. Not complete class acceptance.